Showing posts with label Malaysia. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Malaysia. Show all posts

March 30, 2014

Turkey Invades Syria as The Bible Says: Israel Next

   This time, there's no question or doubt about it. The last time Latakia was attacked it was supposedly in retaliation for a Turkish warplane being shot down. Here is a link from Nov., 2013 for reference: http://www.timesofisrael.com/turkey-behind-syria-strike-on-hezbollah-bound-missiles/  Now, Turkey is even, after downing a Syrian warplane several days ago in a dogfight, as the article below mentions. But here's a new blog instead of continuous updates to my March 1, 2014 blog. And I have attached it below this article for reference. Stay tunedt o this, as I will add relevant material as it occurs.


Syrian rebels allowed to attack Latakia from Turkish soil under Turkish air cover. Iran raises Cain in Ankara
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report March 29, 2014, 10:45 PM (IST) 
Intense fighting for Kasab in northwest Syria 
Intense fighting for Kasab in northwest Syria
Turkey has ratcheted up its intervention in the Syrian war to an unprecedented level, according to exclusive debkafile military and intelligence sources. For the first time in the three-year conflict the Turkish army is allowing Syrian rebel forces, including the Al-Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front, passage through Turkish territory for their offensive to capture the northwestern Syrian coastal area where the Assad clan’s lands are situated.
Ankara’s support for the rebels is inclusive: Turkish troops are posted at the roadside with supplies of ammo, fuel, food, mechanical repair crews and medical aid for rebel forces as they head north. The Turkish air force gives them air cover and Turkish agents arm them with surveillance data on Syrian military movements ahead.
The Syrian fighter jet shot down on March 23 just inside the Turkish border was in fact downed in a dogfight with Turkish warplanes, while trying to bomb the rebel convoy heading for the new combat arena. Both sides preferred to stay quiet about the incident and its causes.
The rebels receiving Turkish military support are disclosed by our sources as belonging to two militias: The Syrian Revolutionaries Front under the command of Jamal Maarouf, which has gathered in remnants of the disbanded Free Syrian Army; and the Islamic Front, sponsored until recently by Saudi intelligence.  They number around 4,000 fighting men including elements of the Nusra Front.
With powerful Turkish backing, this force has been able to carve a very narrow corridor into northwest Syria from the tall Jabal al-Zawiya in the Idlib region up to a point near Syria’s northern Mediterranean coast, thereby severing the northwestern link between Syria and Turkey.
This was the first time rebel forces had gained full control of a strategic corridor. First, they had to battle through and capture the towns of Kazab, Khirbet and Samra northwest of the coastal town of Latakia.
The Syrian army is throwing air, armored and heavy artillery strength against the rebels to stop them firming up their positions in those towns, while also aiming to regain command of the Syrian-Turkish border region.
The fighting Saturday, March 29 was most intense around Kasab.
This new development in the Syrian war raises two questions:
1. For how long can the Syrian rebels hold out against constant battering by superior military strength?
2. If the rebels are thrown out of their new positions, will the Turkish army come to their aid?  If so, it would be Ankara’s first outright military incursion into Syrian territory and the first intrusion by a NATO member in its civil conflict.
Our sources in Ankara report that Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan is in favor of going ahead. He is vehemently opposed by the Turkish chief of staff.
It is this argument which triggered the banning of YouTube by the Turkish government Friday, March 28 - not the important municipal elections taking place Monday. A leaked recording published anonymously purported to reveal a conversation between Turkey’s foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, spy chief Hakan Fidan and a general discussing how to drum up a pretext for a Turkish attack inside Syria. A voice identified as that of Fidan appeared to suggest a missile assault as the pretext for a Turkish invasion.
Erdogan and Turkish intelligence chiefs are convinced that the leak was orchestrated by generals who are against deeper Turkish involvement in the Syria war
In the meantime, debkafile’s Iranian sources report that Tehran was so jittery about this turn of events that a Iranian military delegation was rushed to Ankara, arriving Saturday, to force the Erdogan to take his hands off the Syrian war by any means, including a threat to suspend oil supplies. The two sides are still talking.  

 

March 1, 2014

Who Is About To Invade Syria and Israel? Craig C. White Explains

   ***UPDATE March 26, 2014***  I'm giving you some prime links, references and access to resources below, by author and Bible prophecy teacher, Craig C. White. I'd hardly do this for not many people but you really need to see how this schollar, in every sense of the word, puts the Word of God, prophecy and global events into simple perspective unlike some of the extremely complicated studies from many others.
   Since the original date of my blog, Poland and Malaysia has entered the scenario. (1) Russia has forcefully occupied Crimea, Ukraine. And Ukraine's citizens, largely of Russian descent, voted for the cessation of Crimea, to Russia. (2) For the very first time since Israel became a nation on May 14, 1948, Israeli diplomats have gone on strike, effectively shutting down embassies and consulates worldwide.  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/05/israel-embassy-diplomatic-strike/6089785/  (3) The same day Israel closed all their embassies, news reported that at least 7,000 Polish reservists have been recalled for immediate exercises lasting between 10 and 30 days. And many of them reside in England and elsewhere. http://marketdailynews.com/2014/03/26/poland-calls-up-army-reserves-the-world-stands-on-the-brink-of-conflict/ (4) A suspiciously "missing" Malaysian passenger airliner MH370, "missing" for 17 days, became officially announced that the passengers are dead and the plain crashed into the Indian Ocean.  Before a Monday news conference announcing that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 ended in the Indian Ocean, relatives of passengers learned the tragic news via a text from the airline. The text read, "Malaysia Airlines deeply regrets that we have to assume beyond a reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and that none of those on board survived." http://www.kitv.com/national/Flight-370-relative-All-lives-are-lost/25134320?utm_source=hootsuite&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=kitv ASSUME? BEYOND a reasonable doubt? That's sort of an oxymoron isn't it? Finally, (5) The Deputy Prime Minister of Turkey said that Turkey will sign an agreement with Israel normalizing relations between the two countries, which will involve Israel compensating family members of Turkish citizens who died on the Mavi Marmara flotilla in 2010. http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/middle-east/israel-and-the-middle-east/turkey-to-sign-reconciliation-agreement-with-israel-4482
   What does all this have to do with anything? 
   First of all, it has to do with the original content of this blog, following the title below. A huge point of my blog is the difference between the parts which the nations of Turkey and Russia will play in the end times prophesied in the Bible. 
   But to tie up my update, I'd like to say,  whatever happened with Malaysian flight 370, the government's are required to lie because it was no accident. It's beyond the public, and a personal affair between governments. There's more than meets our eyes. Israel has closed all embassies around the world, Russia has taken control of a sovereign nation of Ukraine's Crimea region, Turkey has recently shot down a Syrian plane, the whole world is a mess, and twenty of the Malaysian planes' passengers were working for a company whom Russia and China have reason to be against, as it has done business with the NSA. It's beyond us but we're the victims. I thank God it wasn't my own friends or family on board and I can only pray that God will somehow give comfort and peace to all because ultimately God is our strength. So sad. Prayers going up to all the passengers' families, friends and loved-ones. 
   Along with the material below, bare in mind that these are glorious times to live in, as children of Almighty God, and we are to do as He says, and to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. It's high time to get and keep our lives and homes in order, and rely more heavily on God than ever before. If the birds of the air are fed, how much more will He provide for us? Read your Bible as much as possible and continuously pray for understanding and growth in all of our affairs. 

To complete my update, here's some words and links you need to check out, from Craig C. White:   "Russia is beginning to take back territory. I think the bible is telling us that 3 Russian leaders will announce that it is time to take back several countries on its western border. Dan 7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh." - READ COMPLETE ARTICLE HERE:  http://hightimetoawake.com/caution-russia-in-bible-prophecy/
CautionAnd order Craig C. White's latest book,
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GHT90DQ
Who Is About To Invade Syria and Israel? Craig C. White Explains
By: Michael D. Tobin 
 March 1, 2014

   Guest, Craig C. White, author and Bible prophecy teacher, discusses with me, Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Syria, Israel, the middle east and end time Antichrist and middle east invasions leading to the war of Armageddon and Christ's return. Romans 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
 
  Who is fighting in Syria, and what does the Bible say about who will be fighting before the destruction of Damascus, Syria and then invasion of Israel? Who will initiate these two invasions? And much more in this interview. 


  Click on the link below to hear Craig describe how many Bible scholars are now seeing the accuracy in the area now known as Turkey, being Gog and Magog in the Bible, and not Russia as previously thought. Also see the likeliness of the Anti-Christ being a Muslim adhering to an ideology and false religion, rather than being an innocent seeker of God and true religion, because Bible teacher and author, Bill Salas told me that most scholars believe the Anti-Christ is not Muslim, and that is why I believe the real Islam is in reality not a religion at all, but a very old form of one-world domination ideology designed to control enough masses and population in order to achieve their ultimate domination, as they and so-called Christians also controlled large parts of the known world in the past.
 So in short, the Anti-Christ may very well initially claim a religion, yet not truthfully adhere to any religion, but history shows us politicians and rulers habitually claim one thing for approval of the populace, and their actions prove otherwise. And there are some very important "otherwises" in this interview. So please take a listen and go through the lower article by Craig C. White.

 Click this link to hear my interview with Craig C. White

http://www.spreaker.com/show/end-times-bible-prophecy



Princes of Turkey!

Most prominent amongst his brothers.

By Craig C. White

 http://hightimetoawake.com/princes-of-turkey/

I know that most bible prophecy teachers say that Magog in the Ezekiel 38 refers to Russia. It is High Time to recognize that Magog is not Russia! That view came about by transcribing “chief” (or the Hebrew “rosh”) to mean Russia(Eze 38:1-3). Transposing Hebrew words into English phonetic equivalents is not proper bible prophecy interpretation technique. That technique is not used elsewhere to interpret bible prophecy. Rosh means first or primary.
Magog is mentioned in the genealogies of Genesis 10 as well as 1Chronicles 1. Magog is mentioned alongside of his brothers Meshech, Tubal, and Gomer, plus a few more. It is interesting to note that most bible prophecy teachers place Tubal, Gomer, Togarmah, and Meshech in today’s Turkey.
Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Gomer, and Togarmah are all people. As a matter of fact they are relatives. Magog, Meshech, Tubal and Gomer are brothers. Togarmah is Gomer’s son. They are among the first families to resettle the world after the devastation of Noah’s flood.
Gen 10:1-3 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. 2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
Magog, Meshech, Tubal, and Gomer are also sons of Japheth. Japheth and his sons all settled in today’s Turkey. You could call Japheth the King of Turkey. His sons are all Princes. Magog was the chief or most prominent Prince amongst his brothers. Princes were set over provinces.
Eze 38:1-3 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal:
Now let’s allow the bible to interpret the bible. The theme of Princes settling and ruling a land is used in many other places in the bible. The Princes of Israel are mentioned a bunch of times. Princes of other nations are also mentioned (1Sam 29:3, 2Sam 10:3, Esther 1:3, Esther 1:14, Psa 68:31, Psa 83:11, Isa 19:11, Isa 23:8, Isa 49:7, Jer 25:19, Jer 38:18, Eze 26:16, Eze 27:21, Dan 3:3, Mat 20:25, 1Co 2:6, plus many other verses). Princes typically refer to the sons of rulers. Princes were set over different provinces.
Esther 1:14  And the next unto him was Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven Princes of Persia and Media, which saw the king’s face, and which sat the first in the kingdom;)
So Magog was the son of Japheth, king of today’s Turkey. Magog and his brothers ruled over different provinces in the land we call Turkey today. Magog was the chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal. In other words, Magog was the most prominent Prince amongst his brothers. Remember that Meshech and Tubal settled in today’s Turkey. In prophetic terms Magog is a primary leader of Turkey.

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March 1, 2014

Who Is About To Invade Syria and Israel? Craig C. White Explains

  ***UPDATE March 30, 2014*** 

March 30, 2014

Turkey Invades Syria as The Bible Says: Israel Next

   This time, there's no question or doubt about it. The last time Latakia was attacked it was supposedly in retaliation for a Turkish warplane being shot down. Here is a link from Nov., 2013 for reference: http://www.timesofisrael.com/turkey-behind-syria-strike-on-hezbollah-bound-missiles/  Now, Turkey is even, after downing a Syrian warplane several days ago in a dogfight, as the article below mentions. But here's a new blog instead of continuous updates to my March 1, 2014 blog. And I have attached it below this article for reference. Stay tunedt o this, as I will add relevant material as it occurs.

Syrian rebels allowed to attack Latakia from Turkish soil under Turkish air cover. Iran raises Cain in Ankara
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report March 29, 2014, 10:45 PM (IST) 
Intense fighting for Kasab in northwest Syria 
Intense fighting for Kasab in northwest Syria
 
Turkey has ratcheted up its intervention in the Syrian war to an unprecedented level, according to exclusive debkafile military and intelligence sources. For the first time in the three-year conflict the Turkish army is allowing Syrian rebel forces, including the Al-Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front, passage through Turkish territory for their offensive to capture the northwestern Syrian coastal area where the Assad clan’s lands are situated.
Ankara’s support for the rebels is inclusive: Turkish troops are posted at the roadside with supplies of ammo, fuel, food, mechanical repair crews and medical aid for rebel forces as they head north. The Turkish air force gives them air cover and Turkish agents arm them with surveillance data on Syrian military movements ahead.
The Syrian fighter jet shot down on March 23 just inside the Turkish border was in fact downed in a dogfight with Turkish warplanes, while trying to bomb the rebel convoy heading for the new combat arena. Both sides preferred to stay quiet about the incident and its causes.
The rebels receiving Turkish military support are disclosed by our sources as belonging to two militias: The Syrian Revolutionaries Front under the command of Jamal Maarouf, which has gathered in remnants of the disbanded Free Syrian Army; and the Islamic Front, sponsored until recently by Saudi intelligence.  They number around 4,000 fighting men including elements of the Nusra Front.
With powerful Turkish backing, this force has been able to carve a very narrow corridor into northwest Syria from the tall Jabal al-Zawiya in the Idlib region up to a point near Syria’s northern Mediterranean coast, thereby severing the northwestern link between Syria and Turkey.
This was the first time rebel forces had gained full control of a strategic corridor. First, they had to battle through and capture the towns of Kazab, Khirbet and Samra northwest of the coastal town of Latakia.
The Syrian army is throwing air, armored and heavy artillery strength against the rebels to stop them firming up their positions in those towns, while also aiming to regain command of the Syrian-Turkish border region.
The fighting Saturday, March 29 was most intense around Kasab.
This new development in the Syrian war raises two questions:
1. For how long can the Syrian rebels hold out against constant battering by superior military strength?
2. If the rebels are thrown out of their new positions, will the Turkish army come to their aid?  If so, it would be Ankara’s first outright military incursion into Syrian territory and the first intrusion by a NATO member in its civil conflict.
Our sources in Ankara report that Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan is in favor of going ahead. He is vehemently opposed by the Turkish chief of staff.
It is this argument which triggered the banning of YouTube by the Turkish government Friday, March 28 - not the important municipal elections taking place Monday. A leaked recording published anonymously purported to reveal a conversation between Turkey’s foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, spy chief Hakan Fidan and a general discussing how to drum up a pretext for a Turkish attack inside Syria. A voice identified as that of Fidan appeared to suggest a missile assault as the pretext for a Turkish invasion.
Erdogan and Turkish intelligence chiefs are convinced that the leak was orchestrated by generals who are against deeper Turkish involvement in the Syria war
In the meantime, debkafile’s Iranian sources report that Tehran was so jittery about this turn of events that a Iranian military delegation was rushed to Ankara, arriving Saturday, to force the Erdogan to take his hands off the Syrian war by any means, including a threat to suspend oil supplies. The two sides are still talking.  

 


***UPDATE March 26, 2014***  I'm giving you some prime links, references and access to resources below, by author and Bible prophecy teacher, Craig C. White. I'd hardly do this for not many people but you really need to see how this schollar, in every sense of the word, puts the Word of God, prophecy and global events into simple perspective unlike some of the extremely complicated studies from many others.
   Since the original date of my blog, Poland and Malaysia has entered the scenario. (1) Russia has forcefully occupied Crimea, Ukraine. And Ukraine's citizens, largely of Russian descent, voted for the cessation of Crimea, to Russia. (2) For the very first time since Israel became a nation on May 14, 1948, Israeli diplomats have gone on strike, effectively shutting down embassies and consulates worldwide.  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/05/israel-embassy-diplomatic-strike/6089785/  (3) The same day Israel closed all their embassies, news reported that at least 7,000 Polish reservists have been recalled for immediate exercises lasting between 10 and 30 days. And many of them reside in England and elsewhere. http://marketdailynews.com/2014/03/26/poland-calls-up-army-reserves-the-world-stands-on-the-brink-of-conflict/ (4) A suspiciously "missing" Malaysian passenger airliner MH370, "missing" for 17 days, became officially announced that the passengers are dead and the plain crashed into the Indian Ocean.  Before a Monday news conference announcing that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 ended in the Indian Ocean, relatives of passengers learned the tragic news via a text from the airline. The text read, "Malaysia Airlines deeply regrets that we have to assume beyond a reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and that none of those on board survived." http://www.kitv.com/national/Flight-370-relative-All-lives-are-lost/25134320?utm_source=hootsuite&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=kitv ASSUME? BEYOND a reasonable doubt? That's sort of an oxymoron isn't it? Finally, (5) The Deputy Prime Minister of Turkey said that Turkey will sign an agreement with Israel normalizing relations between the two countries, which will involve Israel compensating family members of Turkish citizens who died on the Mavi Marmara flotilla in 2010. http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/middle-east/israel-and-the-middle-east/turkey-to-sign-reconciliation-agreement-with-israel-4482
   What does all this have to do with anything? 
   First of all, it has to do with the original content of this blog, following the title below. A huge point of my blog is the difference between the parts which the nations of Turkey and Russia will play in the end times prophesied in the Bible. 
   But to tie up my update, I'd like to say,  whatever happened with Malaysian flight 370, the government's are required to lie because it was no accident. It's beyond the public, and a personal affair between governments. There's more than meets our eyes. Israel has closed all embassies around the world, Russia has taken control of a sovereign nation of Ukraine's Crimea region, Turkey has recently shot down a Syrian plane, the whole world is a mess, and twenty of the Malaysian planes' passengers were working for a company whom Russia and China have reason to be against, as it has done business with the NSA. It's beyond us but we're the victims. I thank God it wasn't my own friends or family on board and I can only pray that God will somehow give comfort and peace to all because ultimately God is our strength. So sad. Prayers going up to all the passengers' families, friends and loved-ones. 
   Along with the material below, bare in mind that these are glorious times to live in, as children of Almighty God, and we are to do as He says, and to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. It's high time to get and keep our lives and homes in order, and rely more heavily on God than ever before. If the birds of the air are fed, how much more will He provide for us? Read your Bible as much as possible and continuously pray for understanding and growth in all of our affairs. 

To complete my update, here's some words and links you need to check out, from Craig C. White:   "Russia is beginning to take back territory. I think the bible is telling us that 3 Russian leaders will announce that it is time to take back several countries on its western border. Dan 7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh." - READ COMPLETE ARTICLE HERE:  http://hightimetoawake.com/caution-russia-in-bible-prophecy/

CautionAnd order Craig C. White's latest book,
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GHT90DQ

Who Is About To Invade Syria and Israel? Craig C. White Explains
By: Michael D. Tobin 
 March 1, 2014

   Guest, Craig C. White, author and Bible prophecy teacher, discusses with me, Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Syria, Israel, the middle east and end time Antichrist and middle east invasions leading to the war of Armageddon and Christ's return. Romans 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
 
  Who is fighting in Syria, and what does the Bible say about who will be fighting before the destruction of Damascus, Syria and then invasion of Israel? Who will initiate these two invasions? And much more in this interview. 


  Click on the link below to hear Craig describe how many Bible scholars are now seeing the accuracy in the area now known as Turkey, being Gog and Magog in the Bible, and not Russia as previously thought. Also see the likeliness of the Anti-Christ being a Muslim adhering to an ideology and false religion, rather than being an innocent seeker of God and true religion, because Bible teacher and author, Bill Salas told me that most scholars believe the Anti-Christ is not Muslim, and that is why I believe the real Islam is in reality not a religion at all, but a very old form of one-world domination ideology designed to control enough masses and population in order to achieve their ultimate domination, as they and so-called Christians also controlled large parts of the known world in the past.
 So in short, the Anti-Christ may very well initially claim a religion, yet not truthfully adhere to any religion, but history shows us politicians and rulers habitually claim one thing for approval of the populace, and their actions prove otherwise. And there are some very important "otherwises" in this interview. So please take a listen and go through the lower article by Craig C. White.

 Click this link to hear my interview with Craig C. White
http://www.spreaker.com/show/end-times-bible-prophecy



Princes of Turkey!

Most prominent amongst his brothers.

By Craig C. White

 http://hightimetoawake.com/princes-of-turkey/

I know that most bible prophecy teachers say that Magog in the Ezekiel 38 refers to Russia. It is High Time to recognize that Magog is not Russia! That view came about by transcribing “chief” (or the Hebrew “rosh”) to mean Russia(Eze 38:1-3). Transposing Hebrew words into English phonetic equivalents is not proper bible prophecy interpretation technique. That technique is not used elsewhere to interpret bible prophecy. Rosh means first or primary.
Magog is mentioned in the genealogies of Genesis 10 as well as 1Chronicles 1. Magog is mentioned alongside of his brothers Meshech, Tubal, and Gomer, plus a few more. It is interesting to note that most bible prophecy teachers place Tubal, Gomer, Togarmah, and Meshech in today’s Turkey.
Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Gomer, and Togarmah are all people. As a matter of fact they are relatives. Magog, Meshech, Tubal and Gomer are brothers. Togarmah is Gomer’s son. They are among the first families to resettle the world after the devastation of Noah’s flood.
Gen 10:1-3 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. 2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
Magog, Meshech, Tubal, and Gomer are also sons of Japheth. Japheth and his sons all settled in today’s Turkey. You could call Japheth the King of Turkey. His sons are all Princes. Magog was the chief or most prominent Prince amongst his brothers. Princes were set over provinces.
Eze 38:1-3 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal:
Now let’s allow the bible to interpret the bible. The theme of Princes settling and ruling a land is used in many other places in the bible. The Princes of Israel are mentioned a bunch of times. Princes of other nations are also mentioned (1Sam 29:3, 2Sam 10:3, Esther 1:3, Esther 1:14, Psa 68:31, Psa 83:11, Isa 19:11, Isa 23:8, Isa 49:7, Jer 25:19, Jer 38:18, Eze 26:16, Eze 27:21, Dan 3:3, Mat 20:25, 1Co 2:6, plus many other verses). Princes typically refer to the sons of rulers. Princes were set over different provinces.
Esther 1:14  And the next unto him was Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven Princes of Persia and Media, which saw the king’s face, and which sat the first in the kingdom;)
So Magog was the son of Japheth, king of today’s Turkey. Magog and his brothers ruled over different provinces in the land we call Turkey today. Magog was the chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal. In other words, Magog was the most prominent Prince amongst his brothers. Remember that Meshech and Tubal settled in today’s Turkey. In prophetic terms Magog is a primary leader of Turkey.

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January 7, 2014

Malaysian Gov. Raids Bible Society Then Apologize, Kind of

 Below is a Jakarta Post article, followed by another websites comments from outraged citizens, in a nation of so called freedom of worship. All of the comments ring true of our own country, by-the way.

Raid on Bible society regrettable:
M'sian unity council
 http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/01/07/raid-bible-society-regrettable-msian-unity-council.html


The newley-formed National Unity Consultative Council (NUCC) says the recent raid on the Bible Society of Malaysia in Damansara Kim, Petaling Jaya, was a “blatant disregard” for the agreed solution to the distribution of Christian publications in Bahasa Malaysia.

“NUCC regrets the raid and confiscation of the Bibles (by the Selangor Islamic Religious Department or Jais),” council chairman Samsuddin Osman said Monday.

“It is a blatant disregard for the 10-point solution made by the federal government in April 2011 and reiterated by the prime minister in October 2013.”

“We call on the government to ensure compliance with the solution and respond to the challenges to national unity with a greater sense of urgency,” he said after the NUCC inaugural meeting here.

The council also urged all parties to abide by the solution, which had been accepted by the Christian Federation of Malaysia.

Responding to a question, Samsuddin said the meeting had not touched on the issue of non-Muslims using the word “Allah”.

“We are not touching the ‘kalimah Allah’ issue (usage of the word Allah in non-Muslim scriptures). That is for the religious people to work out. We are talking about raids on places of worship.

Samsuddin, who is former chief secretary to the government, said that Malaysians must respect all places of worship and not hold demonstrations outside any of them.

However, the council refrained from saying that the Jais raid was “wrong”, arguing that NUCC could not take sides.

“Like a father, NUCC cannot blame our children, but can say this is cannot happen again,” he said.

Last Thursday, Jais enforcement officers seized 350 copies of Christian publications from the premises of the Bible Society of Malaysia.

It is understood that the raid was carried out under the Non-Islamic Religions (Control of Propagation Among Muslims) Enactment 1988 that prohibits the use of the word “Allah” and other Quranic terms by non-Muslims.

Earlier, Samsudin said that NUCC had been tasked by the government to come up with a national bluerprint on unity within two years.

He said NUCC will hold nationwide townhall talks and roundtable discussions with non-governmental organisations and interest groups starting on February 22 in Kuala Lumpur.

NUCC working committees would also hold closed door meetings with the religious authorities and community leaders on issues affecting national unity and submit their first report to the Government in June.

Jais will be among the participants, Samsuddin said, adding: “NUCC will serve as unity bridge builders in Malaysian society.”


NUCC is either a tiger or cat, it can't be both
| 9:00AM Jan 7, 2014
YOURSAY ‘Have the guts to say what is right; otherwise it’s lip-service.’

NUCC 'regrets' Jais raid, but won't say it's wrong

Mushiro: People holding positions in public office should speak out clearly and strongly on public interest issues. On serious matters such as the raid on the Bible Society of Malaysia and the seizure of the Malay bibles, the wrong side should be told off.

And if the National Unity Consultative Council (NUCC) is too careful with its words, then how can the message be put across?

Anonymous_4031: It is regrettable and pathetic for NUCC to say that it regrets Jais' (Selangor Islamic Religious Department) raid and seizure of Malay bibles. Have the guts to say what is right, otherwise it’s only lip-service.

NUCC is a toothless tiger. Has it forgotten that certain people entered the Christian premises in Petaling Jaya some years ago and disrupted a Christian function? Please do not overuse the word "recur". The recent intrusion is the second time.

You need not take sides; but you must be truthful and say what is to be said and act accordingly. "A mere brave speech without action is letting off hot steam," so said Mahatma Gandhi.

Where is the implementation of the 10-point agreement, endorsed by the cabinet before the Sarawak state election? Be honest and stick your neck out on the agreement. Was the 10-point agreement a political tool to use just before the state election?

Election or no election, stick to your guns, and never politicise religion for political expediency.

Anonymous_4196: I wonder which of the 10 points in the solution promised by Premier Najib Abdul Razak has been fulfilled so far.

1Melayu: I am not sure why everyone is harping on this so-called ‘10-point solution’. Like many other things, it was a myth created by Najib before GE13 to win votes and nothing else. So stop talking about this fable.

Limfly: When something is as clear cut as an illegal raid conducted by one religious body against another religious body, the NUCC has every right to take the side of the one whose rights have been violated - the side of justice.

When a wrong has been done, just say it and bring the perpetrators to book. Stop pussyfooting around.

MAYVBWELL: “NUCC also urged the government to urgently respond to issues pertaining to national unity.” Perhaps this advice is equally applicable to NUCC.

Okeylah: To NUCC: Since you can't say Jais is wrong even though you do feel their actions are regrettable, you should probably say they are "not right" just to avoid using the word "wrong".

Mob1900: National Unity Consultative Council, what part of 'national' and 'unity' is the council referring to?

Anonymous_4056: NUCC can't do much. It’s another toothless (useless) and powerless group meant as window dressing.

Your duty is to state clearly without ambiguity whether Jais is right or wrong to barge into the Bible Society of Malaysia and seize the Malay bibles and arrest its officers.

Surely Jais is abusing its authority in calling the police (another brainless sub-division of Umno) for help. Jais should not, and should never be empowered/allowed to meddle/interfere in the affairs of minorities’ religions.

Albertan98: When clear leadership is needed, we find wishy-washy statements from the body set up to look into national unity. That is the problem with Malaysia at this moment.

Nobody from the BN side, except perhaps Marina Mahathir, seems to be able to stand up to the tide of government tolerated racism and religious bigotry.

Odin Tajue: You are absolutely right, NUCC chairperson Samsudin Osman. You can't take sides.

As we all know, the best position anyone without any conscience, principles, integrity and courage can take is to sit on the fence. I believe the term used to describe such people is ‘fence-sitters’.

Paul Warren: Like as if Jais and those pushing the buttons care about what these jokers think!

Basically: To say “The council can take a stand but the person with the power to do something is the PM,” is to say the NUCC is a total waste of our time and money.

If the PM were doing his job as a proper PM for all Malaysians, according to the constitution, you wouldn’t need to form this silly council at all in the first place.

Banzai: NUCC, you are given the power and authority to determine on issues of national unity. So you must make a stand on issues that affect national unity and not throw the ball to someone else’s court.

If not, what good are you. If you are given a gun without any bullets, what’s the use of having a gun. I am really disappointed with NUCC.

Vijay47: “NUCC welcomes the decision of Selangor Umno not to stage any demonstration outside churches,” the chairman said.

So you are admiring Umno whose initial position had threatened to set the nation aflame. By deciding not to go ahead with their dangerous plans, they have become good guys?

NUCC and Lee Lam Thye, why don't you just close shop and go home? By the way, did you also express regret that Marina and friends went to Our Lady of Lourdes Church to bring some comfort to Christians?

Guyintheglass: Disappointing. At a minimum, it should take a position whether it is right to enter the Bible Society of Malaysia's premises without a warrant.

Surely one religious body entering another different religious body's premise is within the ambit of NUCC.

Peacemaker: NUCC has no guts to call a spade a spade. How can you consider yourself promoters and guardians of national unity. You either recognise unity or you don’t. You cannot straddle the fence to be everybody's nice but spineless guy.


Unafraid: Clearly the NUCC's mild statement is made in deference to the Selangor sultan's decree. In fact, I suspect the silence of the entire federal cabinet is because of the same reason, notwithstanding the inept top leadership of the government.

We have a government in total paralysis with everybody going through their law books, wondering whether federal law overrides state law or royalty overrides every law.

The nation is rudderless, directionless, and leaderless and, God forbid, potentially lawless.


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