***UPDATE JUNE 28, 2014*** Turkey Indeed Shuts Off The Flow of Euphrates River and AKA's of ISIS-ISIL
Israel’s Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz rated war as a “low risk” for the foreseeable future, but credited the risk of escalation as “very high,” in a lecture he delivered Monday, March 11 at the Herzliya Interdisciplinary Institute for policy and strategy. “Almost every week, some incident occurs that could drag the region into a conflagration,” he warned.
debkafile’s military sources: Gen. Gantz’s distinction between “war” and “conflagration” stems from the differentiation Israel’s senior policy-making and military circles have begun making of late to support a misconception that a full-blown war is no longer on the cards at present. They support this rationale by arguing that full-scale war can only be fought by large regular armies, while a “conflagration” or “escalation” entails smaller units and less terrain.
The Egyptian army, which would be the key to a major conflict, is held up in this regard as being in no state to go to war, given their country’s disastrous political and economic plight. The generals, according to this theory, wouldl take into account the low state of their units and lack of logistical preparedness and simply decline to issue any order to embark on war against Israel.
So when Gantz talked about a conflagration, he was thinking in terms of the Islamist militias in Syria, Hizballah in Lebanon and the Salafists allied with al Qaeda cells in Sinai – none of which are capable of launching war on the classical dimensions of the past.
What this kind of thinking omits to take into account is that, while the regular Arab national armies which attacked Israel in the past are indeed crumbling, the militias in their countries are mushrooming dangerously. They are bursting out of their national boundaries, nourished with arms, manpower and funding from distant sources in and beyond the Middle East.
debkafile’s military sources point to the example of the Syrian army’s 17th Reserve Division, whose recent defeat in the battle for the Euphrates River in eastern Syria established a regional landmark. It removed the last gap in the 1,000-kilometer long chain of command formed by Islamist forces identified or associated with al Qaeda, which now runs contiguously from the northern outskirts of Baghdad to the eastern fringes of Damascus. The Syrian Golan, since it fell to the Islamist militias fighting with Syrian rebels, forms part of that chain. The Battle for the Euphrates was a landmark event in that it opened the way for al Qaeda to conduct itself as a transnational force in combat. And indeed, in a recent encounter, al Qaeda in Iraq claimed victory over Syrian military units which, having crossed the border into that country, lost the battle at the cost of 48 soldiers and 9 agents dead.
Therefore, any “conflagration” in Syria, for instance, could quickly spread to Lebanon, Iraq or the Golan; and a violent incident in Egypt may emanate from or spill over into Libya, Israel or Algeria.
This eventuality was intimated in another part of the Gantz lecture: “The only permanent factor we are seeing in the last two years is that nothing is permanent. Egypt, too, which underwent a revolutionary process, has not achieved permanence; old and familiar arenas are changing and are being replaced by newer, weightier, ones,” said the chief of staff. “The threats have not gone, only assumed new shapes and when we encounter them in the future, will demand of us enhanced strength.”
Gantz went on to say: “True, we aren’t preparing to fight a regular army, but when next challenged, we shall still have to crawl through the burrows of Gaza and reach every building in Judea and Samaria.”
The general omitted reference to Iran. This may have been because a nuclear Iran represents the prospect of all-out war with a national army and is therefore the exception to the theory embodied in his lecture.
Regarding Syria, he said: “The situation in Syria has become exceptionally dangerous and unstable. Although the probability of a conventional war against the Syrian army is low, the terrorist organizations fighting Assad may next set their sights on us. The Syrian army’s tremendous strategic resources may well fall into terrorist hands.”
It's interesting it is noted that Euphrates originates in Turkey, but Biblical mankind BEGAN at the end of it. Also, often in Scriptures, God gives analogies on His concept of 'the end from the beginning', which is somehow, the way He operates. Isaiah 46:10 I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please. Revelation 16:12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.
(From Wikipedia) The Euphrates River (i/juːˈfreɪtiːz/; Arabic: الفرات: al-Furāt, Hebrew: פרת: Prat, Turkish: Fırat, Kurdish: Firat) is the longest and one of the most historically important rivers of Western Asia. Together with the Tigris, it is one of the two defining rivers of Mesopotamia. Originating in eastern Turkey, the Euphrates flows through Syria and Iraq to join the Tigris in the Shatt al-Arab, which empties into the Persian Gulf.
A week ago, Debka File, the world's largest newswire, also awarded position in U.S. Library of Congress following the 911 attacks, reported this: Syrian jihadi rebels claim seizure of important dam DEBKAfile February 11, 2013, 5:58 PM (GMT+02:00)
A Syrian activist spokesman reported Monday that rebel fighters, largely from the Jabhat al-Nusra, gained control of the hydro-electrical Euphrates dam at Tabaqa after minimal resistance. The dam, the largest of its kind in Syria, supplies water and energy to much of Syria. According to some sources, the jihadis are not fully in control of the dam but only surrounded it. According to some sources, the jihadis are not fully in control of the dam but have only surrounded it.
Since then, there's been no updates on that situation that can be found online.
Here's a map of the Euphrates, Tigris land coverage. You can see they start in Turkey, flow through Syria and then through Iraq, ending in Iraq, above Kuwait, bordering on Iran.
Here's a couple of maps with Israel in relation to Biblical names of her neighboring countries. But this one has Magog as being east of modern day Turkey. That is irrelevant though, because we see through the ages borders have changed, butt he same geneologies reside in these regions, listed in Scriptures.
A couple weeks ago I asked for suggestions on the above subject. Finally several days ago I located this source, which puts a lot of insight into what's been bugging me since 1989-1994 during my Bible school years. My school director, Wallace H. Heflin Jr. frequently mentioned Turkey will stop the flow of the Euphrates River which runs through Turkey, Syria and Iraq and leads to the Tigris. http://hightimetoawake.com/magog-made-easy/
And about Turkey being Gog, according to Craig C. White, and his insightful researching, he writes in this article, Gog is Turkey! Magog is it’s Leader! http://hightimetoawake.com/2013/02/19/gog-is-turkey-magog-is-its-leader/
Eze 38:1-3 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
Verse 2 tells us that Magog is the “chief prince” (or most prominent) of his brothers, Meshech and Tubal. So Noah had a son named Japheth who had a son named Magog who settled Turkey. Gog is a shortened version of Magog.
This isn’t the first passage where Magog, Meshech, and Tubal are found. Look at Genesis 10:1-3.
Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. 2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
Now, about Euprates drying up and the War of Armageddon, the day we've all been waiting for: Published on May 18, 2012 by, Pastor Max D. Younce
I hope this read has been somewhat enjoyable and useful. Like myself, please follow the links of the above video for future reference, and the links of Craig C. White at www.hightimetoawake.com Throughout the decades of following Scriptures and Christ, I have painstakenly attempted to locate valid and useful sources in the midst of what Craig C. White calls "mis-information," and I believe these two sources are extremely valuable and considerate to research things carefully and accurately. Thank you for stopping by, and God bless you!
Muslim Brotherhood’s Turkey: Shuts Off Euphrates Water To Syria & Iraq.
Shiite Al-Qaeda aka; Shiite Muslim Brotherhood, aka; Shiite Al-Nusra, aka; Shiite ISIS
The decrease in water levels From The Euphrates In Lake Assad.
Water and Wheat: Obama ISIS Deadly Weapons!
The Turkish government recently cut off the flow of the Euphrates River, threatening primarily Syria but also Iraq with a major water crisis. Al-Akhbar found out that the water level in Lake Assad has dropped by about six meters, leaving millions of Syrians without drinking water.
Two weeks ago, the Turkish government once again intervened in the Syrian crisis. This time was different from anything it had attempted before and the repercussions of which may bring unprecedented catastrophes onto both Iraq and Syria.
Violating international norms, the Turkish government recently cut off the water supply of the Euphrates River completely. In fact, Ankara began to gradually reduce pumping Euphrates water about a month and half ago, then cut if off completely two weeks ago, according to information received by Al-Akhbar.
Oil From Iraq To Muslim Brotherhood’s Turkey A source who spoke on the condition of anonymity revealed that water levels in the Lake Assad (a man-made water reservoir on the Euphrates) recently dropped by six meters from its normal levels (which means losing millions of cubic meters of water). The source warned that “a further drop of one additional meter would put the dam out of service.”
“We should cut off or reduce the water output of the dam, until the original problem regarding the blockage of the water supply is fixed,” the source explained.
The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) controlling the region the dam is located in did not suspend the water output. Employees of the General Institution of the Euphrates Dam are running the lake under the supervision of al-Qaeda linked ISIS, but they don’t have the authority to take serious decisions, such as reducing the water output. In addition, such a step is a mere attempt to ease the situation, and it will lose its efficacy if the water supply isn’t restored to the dam by Turkey.
The tragic repercussions of the new Turkish assault began to reveal themselves when water levels dropped in al-Khafsa in Aleppo’s eastern countryside (where a water pumping station from Lake Assad is located to pump water through water channels to Aleppo and its countryside).
The reservoirs are expected to run out of water completely by tonight or tomorrow morning at the latest. Meanwhile, water supplies in auxiliary reservoirs in al-Khafsa are close to being depleted and the reservoirs are expected to run out of water completely by tonight or tomorrow morning at the latest. This threatens to leave seven million Syrians without access to water.
Also, Tishrin Dam stopped receiving any water which blocked its electricity generating turbines, decreasing the power supply in Aleppo and its countryside, further intensifying the already severe imbalance in the power supply.
In Raqqa, the northern side of Lake Assad is today completely out of service.
Two million Syrians living in the region covering the villages of Little Swaydiya to the east until al-Jarniya to the west could lose their drinking water supply.
“Losing water supplies in the dam means that the silt in the lake will dry off which would pressure its structure, subjecting it to fissures and eventually total collapse,” Al-Akhbar sources warned, adding “it is crucial to shut down the dam to stop its collapse.”
However, shutting down the dam (if ISIS agrees) will only lead to a human and ecological (zoological and agricultural) catastrophe in Syria and in Iraq.
According to information obtained by Al-Akhbar, Aleppo locals (who had already launched many initiatives to reach solutions for a number of local issues) began a race against time to recommend solutions for the problem, including putting the thermal plant at al-Safira back to work, which may convince ISIS to spare the Euphrates Dam turbines, and in turn preserve current water levels in the lake.
In case it succeeds, such a step would only rescue whatever water and structures are left, and would ward off further repercussions of the crisis that has already started. A halt to the water supply is now inevitable and can’t be resolved unless the Turkish government takes the decision to resume pumping Euphrates water.
In any case, it is worth mentioning that the water in the lake would take about a month, after resuming pumping, to return to its normal levels.
“The decrease in water levels” Bottom: “Euphrates Dam” (Photo: Al-Akhbar)
A historical conflict
The Euphrates River has historically been at the center of a conflict between Turkey on the one hand and both Syria and Iraq on the other. Ankara insists on considering the Euphrates a “trans-boundary river” and not an “international river,” hence it is “not subject to international laws.” Also, Turkey is one of the only three countries in the world (along with China and Burundi) that opposed the Convention on the Law of the Non-Navigational Uses of International Watercourses adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations in 1997.
In 1987, a temporary agreement between Syria and Turkey was signed to share the water supplies of the Euphrates during the period when the basin of the Ataturk Dam was being filled. In virtue of the agreement, Turkey pledged to provide an annual level of over 500 cubic meters of water a second on the Turkish-Syrian borders, until reaching a final agreement about sharing the water supplies of the river between the three countries. In 1994, Syria registered the agreement at the United Nations to guarantee the minimum amount of Iraq and Syria’s right to the water from the Euphrates River.
***UPDATE MARCH 12, 2013*** http://michaeldtobin.blogspot.com/2013/02/armageddon-war-comes-soon-as-euphrates.html Israel’s Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz rated war as a “low risk” for the foreseeable future, but credited the risk of escalation as “very high,” in a lecture he delivered Monday, March 11 at the Herzliya Interdisciplinary Institute for policy and strategy. “Almost every week, some incident occurs that could drag the region into a conflagration,” he warned.
debkafile’s military sources: Gen. Gantz’s distinction between “war” and “conflagration” stems from the differentiation Israel’s senior policy-making and military circles have begun making of late to support a misconception that a full-blown war is no longer on the cards at present. They support this rationale by arguing that full-scale war can only be fought by large regular armies, while a “conflagration” or “escalation” entails smaller units and less terrain.
The Egyptian army, which would be the key to a major conflict, is held up in this regard as being in no state to go to war, given their country’s disastrous political and economic plight. The generals, according to this theory, wouldl take into account the low state of their units and lack of logistical preparedness and simply decline to issue any order to embark on war against Israel.
So when Gantz talked about a conflagration, he was thinking in terms of the Islamist militias in Syria, Hizballah in Lebanon and the Salafists allied with al Qaeda cells in Sinai – none of which are capable of launching war on the classical dimensions of the past.
What this kind of thinking omits to take into account is that, while the regular Arab national armies which attacked Israel in the past are indeed crumbling, the militias in their countries are mushrooming dangerously. They are bursting out of their national boundaries, nourished with arms, manpower and funding from distant sources in and beyond the Middle East.
debkafile’s military sources point to the example of the Syrian army’s 17th Reserve Division, whose recent defeat in the battle for the Euphrates River in eastern Syria established a regional landmark. It removed the last gap in the 1,000-kilometer long chain of command formed by Islamist forces identified or associated with al Qaeda, which now runs contiguously from the northern outskirts of Baghdad to the eastern fringes of Damascus. The Syrian Golan, since it fell to the Islamist militias fighting with Syrian rebels, forms part of that chain. The Battle for the Euphrates was a landmark event in that it opened the way for al Qaeda to conduct itself as a transnational force in combat. And indeed, in a recent encounter, al Qaeda in Iraq claimed victory over Syrian military units which, having crossed the border into that country, lost the battle at the cost of 48 soldiers and 9 agents dead.
Therefore, any “conflagration” in Syria, for instance, could quickly spread to Lebanon, Iraq or the Golan; and a violent incident in Egypt may emanate from or spill over into Libya, Israel or Algeria.
This eventuality was intimated in another part of the Gantz lecture: “The only permanent factor we are seeing in the last two years is that nothing is permanent. Egypt, too, which underwent a revolutionary process, has not achieved permanence; old and familiar arenas are changing and are being replaced by newer, weightier, ones,” said the chief of staff. “The threats have not gone, only assumed new shapes and when we encounter them in the future, will demand of us enhanced strength.”
Gantz went on to say: “True, we aren’t preparing to fight a regular army, but when next challenged, we shall still have to crawl through the burrows of Gaza and reach every building in Judea and Samaria.”
The general omitted reference to Iran. This may have been because a nuclear Iran represents the prospect of all-out war with a national army and is therefore the exception to the theory embodied in his lecture.
Regarding Syria, he said: “The situation in Syria has become exceptionally dangerous and unstable. Although the probability of a conventional war against the Syrian army is low, the terrorist organizations fighting Assad may next set their sights on us. The Syrian army’s tremendous strategic resources may well fall into terrorist hands.”
It's interesting it is noted that Euphrates originates in Turkey, but Biblical mankind BEGAN at the end of it. Also, often in Scriptures, God gives analogies on His concept of 'the end from the beginning', which is somehow, the way He operates. Isaiah 46:10 I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please. Revelation 16:12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.
(From Wikipedia) The Euphrates River (i/juːˈfreɪtiːz/; Arabic: الفرات: al-Furāt, Hebrew: פרת: Prat, Turkish: Fırat, Kurdish: Firat) is the longest and one of the most historically important rivers of Western Asia. Together with the Tigris, it is one of the two defining rivers of Mesopotamia. Originating in eastern Turkey, the Euphrates flows through Syria and Iraq to join the Tigris in the Shatt al-Arab, which empties into the Persian Gulf.
A week ago, Debka File, the world's largest newswire, also awarded position in U.S. Library of Congress following the 911 attacks, reported this: Syrian jihadi rebels claim seizure of important dam DEBKAfile February 11, 2013, 5:58 PM (GMT+02:00)
A Syrian activist spokesman reported Monday that rebel fighters, largely from the Jabhat al-Nusra, gained control of the hydro-electrical Euphrates dam at Tabaqa after minimal resistance. The dam, the largest of its kind in Syria, supplies water and energy to much of Syria. According to some sources, the jihadis are not fully in control of the dam but only surrounded it. According to some sources, the jihadis are not fully in control of the dam but have only surrounded it.
Since then, there's been no updates on that situation that can be found online.
A couple weeks ago I asked for suggestions on the above subject. Finally several days ago I located this source, which puts a lot of insight into what's been bugging me since 1989-1994 during my Bible school years. My school director, Wallace H. Heflin Jr. frequently mentioned Turkey will stop the flow of the Euphrates River which runs through Turkey, Syria and Iraq and leads to the Tigris. http://hightimetoawake.com/magog-made-easy/
And about Turkey being Gog, according to Craig C. White, and his insightful researching, he writes in this article, Gog is Turkey! Magog is it’s Leader! http://hightimetoawake.com/2013/02/19/gog-is-turkey-magog-is-its-leader/
Eze 38:1-3 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
Verse 2 tells us that Magog is the “chief prince” (or most prominent) of his brothers, Meshech and Tubal. So Noah had a son named Japheth who had a son named Magog who settled Turkey. Gog is a shortened version of Magog.
This isn’t the first passage where Magog, Meshech, and Tubal are found. Look at Genesis 10:1-3.
Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. 2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
Now, about Euprates drying up and the War of Armageddon, the day we've all been waiting for: Published on May 18, 2012 by, Pastor Max D. Younce
1. Revelation 16:12 - The Drying-Up of the River Euphrates. Clear back in Newsweek, February 11, 1974, they ran an article stating "rapid progress is being made on the High Euphrates Dam, which is being built with Soviet aid." Its stated purpose was for irrigating the land between the Tigris and Euphrates River with the anticipation of being able to feed some one billion people. This very well could be the means of drying up the river, making it possible for the "kings of the east" and their armies to cross over.
2. The "Kings of the East." would include China, Japan, India, and etc. In Revelation 9:16,18 we find part of a wave of truth that extends clear to the end of the Tribulation Period, in reference to this great war of Armageddon. ( Revelation 9:16, 18)
3. This is a two-hundred million man army, headed up by the Unholy Trinity: the Dragon (Satan), the Beast (Antichrist), and the False Prophet (Anti-Spirit). (Revelation 16:13)
The Unholy Trinity was referenced to frogs; because some people at that time, who considered others to be "quacks," labeled them as "frogs," and metaphorically associated with serpents (i.e., evil); just as some label people today.
4. Joel 3:2 gives the Location of the Battle of Armageddon. "Jehoshaphat" means "Jehovah Judgeth." In Revelation 16:16, the location is named "Armageddon." (Revelation 16:16)
The Greek is "ar-ma-ged-on" with English spelling "Armageddon. This Greek word is from the Hebrew for "Mount Megiddo (Har-Megiddon)." The Valley of Jezreel and the Plain of Esdraelon lie at the foot of Mt. Megiddo, where many battles have been fought in the past. The city of Megiddo was important as it guarded one of the main entrances to the valley.
5. Joel 3:2, 9-14: God Invites the Ungodly To Their Battle of Death. In Joel 3:2, the word "plead" is very misleading. We think in our English as begging, or pleading with someone to do something we want them to do; or to stop them from doing something they intended to do, etc. The Hebrew for "plead" is "shaphat," a prime root, and means: "to pronounce sentence against; avenge; condemn; and execute judgment." There is no pleading here, as judgment has already been pronounced and execution and victory will be immediate.
6. Revelation 14:14-20 Reveals that At Armageddon, Death Is Instantaneous for Christ's Enemies. The blood will rise from the ground to the horses' bridles for a length of approximately 160 miles, or more. The distance is given at 1,600 furlongs. Five furlongs was considered a Sabbath-day's journey; about one-half a mile, or a little longer. Therefore, ten furlongs would equal one mile. 1,600 furlongs would equal approximately 160 miles, or a little more. How will this be? Zechariah 14:12 gives the answer.
"And this shall be the PLAGUE wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth."
2. The "Kings of the East." would include China, Japan, India, and etc. In Revelation 9:16,18 we find part of a wave of truth that extends clear to the end of the Tribulation Period, in reference to this great war of Armageddon. ( Revelation 9:16, 18)
3. This is a two-hundred million man army, headed up by the Unholy Trinity: the Dragon (Satan), the Beast (Antichrist), and the False Prophet (Anti-Spirit). (Revelation 16:13)
The Unholy Trinity was referenced to frogs; because some people at that time, who considered others to be "quacks," labeled them as "frogs," and metaphorically associated with serpents (i.e., evil); just as some label people today.
4. Joel 3:2 gives the Location of the Battle of Armageddon. "Jehoshaphat" means "Jehovah Judgeth." In Revelation 16:16, the location is named "Armageddon." (Revelation 16:16)
The Greek is "ar-ma-ged-on" with English spelling "Armageddon. This Greek word is from the Hebrew for "Mount Megiddo (Har-Megiddon)." The Valley of Jezreel and the Plain of Esdraelon lie at the foot of Mt. Megiddo, where many battles have been fought in the past. The city of Megiddo was important as it guarded one of the main entrances to the valley.
5. Joel 3:2, 9-14: God Invites the Ungodly To Their Battle of Death. In Joel 3:2, the word "plead" is very misleading. We think in our English as begging, or pleading with someone to do something we want them to do; or to stop them from doing something they intended to do, etc. The Hebrew for "plead" is "shaphat," a prime root, and means: "to pronounce sentence against; avenge; condemn; and execute judgment." There is no pleading here, as judgment has already been pronounced and execution and victory will be immediate.
6. Revelation 14:14-20 Reveals that At Armageddon, Death Is Instantaneous for Christ's Enemies. The blood will rise from the ground to the horses' bridles for a length of approximately 160 miles, or more. The distance is given at 1,600 furlongs. Five furlongs was considered a Sabbath-day's journey; about one-half a mile, or a little longer. Therefore, ten furlongs would equal one mile. 1,600 furlongs would equal approximately 160 miles, or a little more. How will this be? Zechariah 14:12 gives the answer.
"And this shall be the PLAGUE wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth."
I hope this read has been somewhat enjoyable and useful. Like myself, please follow the links of the above video for future reference, and the links of Craig C. White at www.hightimetoawake.com Throughout the decades of following Scriptures and Christ, I have painstakenly attempted to locate valid and useful sources in the midst of what Craig C. White calls "mis-information," and I believe these two sources are extremely valuable and considerate to research things carefully and accurately. Thank you for stopping by, and God bless you!
Hi Mike: Interesting subject. Good job getting info together. Craig C. White
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Deleteinteresting indeed. You might be interested in this: http://unduecoercion.org
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