Judges/Burns,Oregon/Trolls/Gov Schills/Tribal & Ranchlands/State-Run Media & Public Sentiments By: Michael Tobin
(Jan 12, 2016 UPDATE)
The following two quotationed sentences is the complete update. The rest of the article deals with past few day's events: "Michael Emery (seen in the video above) in Burns, Oregon verifies today a judge who will remain unnamed is on his way to Burns, Oregon escorted by two U.S Marshals. The purpose of the visit is to reinstate the rule of law according to the U.S constitution." Taken from a late morning update from the "Support Cliven Bundy" page. Here is the article link:
The following is something I've been meaning to touch on for quite some time, and now, the opportunity seems ripe. And you're quite welcome, for those whose response is, "O yeah! What a riot these people are!" But seriously. Just read some of the garbage and wonder how is it that some get away with profaneity and threats when others don't. But the following is no profanity. Just simple slander.
As described in Wikipedia, a shill is described as this: A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization. Shills can carry out their operations in the areas of media, journalism, marketing or other business areas.
Shill typically refers to someone who purposely gives onlookers the impression that they are an enthusiastic independent customer of a seller (or marketer of ideas) for whom they are secretly working. The person or group who hires the shill is using crowd psychology to encourage other onlookers or audience members to purchase the goods or services (or accept the ideas being marketed). Shills are often employed by professional marketing campaigns. "Plant" and "stooge" more commonly refer to any person who is secretly in league with another person or organization while pretending to be neutral or actually a part of the organization he is planted in, such as a magician's audience, a political party, or an intelligence organization. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill )
Michael Tobin: People should get a college degree in what they learn from these memes huh?
JS: Sadly this political cartoon is how some conservatives react. They cheer on cops who kill children with toy guns, yet defend jerks with real guns who break the law.
Michael Tobin: No that is not reality. That is a twisted picture of how the puppeteers want society to see things. And it just isn't true. What people don't understand is that Constitution Militia actually do have legitimate rights to do what they are doing, where they are doing it and how they are doing it for the reasons they are doing it. It will all come out in the wash. Also, black lives matter has a legitimate claim as well. At least to those of us who still have the ability to reason. But using memes like this, no matter which side of a cause a cause is for, is counterproductive. Truth doesn't need deception.
JS: Sometimes people need to be shown a mirror for change to happen. A cab driver today pleaded guilty to refusing to pick up Al Roker due to the color of his skin and had to pay a $500 fine for it. Sadly racism is still out there, and it won't go away if all we do is ignore it and sweep it under the rug.
Michael Tobin: The cab driver was a dark complected man. Racism was not the motivation for not picking up Al Roker. His reaction was reactionary.
JS: Actually they don't have the right to destroy property or claim access only for them. They say they are taking it back for the people. but by the people they mean only ranchers. They don't want the land for everyone to access, just them and their kind. One of those speaking on here for the group said all like minded people were invited since it is the people's land. I asked if nudist commie liberals would be allowed to use the place also and my question was ignored. Obviously those people throwing a temper tantrum don't want it for ALL people just people they agree with. That isn't about freedom, it is about protecting the status quo to their liking only.
Michael Tobin: Likeminded people means people of any color, race, creed, religion etc... who are tired of Federal abuse and want property back in state control for all of the obvious reasons of abuse and criminal activity on the Fed BLM and Wildlife parts. To throw in nudist or whatever is just a circular tactic to keep a dead argument going
JS: Shouldn't it be available for ALL people not just people who agree with them? After all the land and the building belong to all people. So it is time that some pot smoking nudist hippies go enjoy the benefits of the Refuge. Of course those freedom first minded people with the guns will accept them with open arms right?
It is not a circular argument because it points out the fact that they are making statements they don't really support. They don't want all people to go up there and use the refuge, only people they agree with.
Michael Tobin: OK so now I'm naive? Nice circular going on again. Yes it is circular. You said the person didn't answer you. You obviously are asking anybody other than who is in any kind of authority. Unless you want to lie and say it was the top dog. You could have asked a dog and got no answer for all anyone online knoiws. We all already know you can say anything you want online. But you admit that is a dead argument too because you can't paint Burns protesters, ranchers, militia or any other white foe as racist in this matter. Case closed. Like I said, it's all going to come out and all you people propogandizing this whole just cause are going to be left looking for another fight. You know what your purpose is depending on who you actually are. You are either government propoganda operatives, kids, or commies. It doesn't matter to me because the fact is, you won't succeed in perverting the truth except in your own minds.
Second mainstream news Site Conversation
MP: How in he hell have these criminals been allowed to take it this far? Oh and when can I take over a federal building while I'm armed? The only ones worse than these idiots are the ones that are doing nothing. The government it's self.
Michael Tobin: What people don't understand is that they actually do have legitimate rights to do what they are doing, where they are doing it and how they are doing it for the reasons they are doing it. It will all come out in the wash.
MP: They have the right to protest and assemble. They don't have the right to destroy or commandeer government property for their cause.
Michael Tobin: OK so now I'm naive? Nice circular going on again. Yes it is circular. You said the person didn't answer you. You obviously are asking anybody other than who is in any kind of authority. Unless you want to lie and say it was the top dog. You could have asked a dog and got no answer for all anyone online knoiws. We all already know you can say anything you want online. But you admit that is a dead argument too because you can't paint Burns protesters, ranchers, militia or any other white foe as racist in this matter. Case closed. Like I said, it's all going to come out and all you people propogandizing this whole just cause are going to be left looking for another fight. You know what your purpose is depending on who you actually are. You are either government propoganda operatives, kids, or commies. It doesn't matter to me because the fact is, you won't succeed in perverting the truth except in your own minds.
JS: Yes I can paint at least one of them as racist. Oh wait he didn't mean what he said right? It was the media's fault for playing the unedited version of the video recording. He is not really racist and they didn't understand him when he said Black people should be taught to pick cotton so they don't go to jail.
Michael Tobin: I know ALL about that grasshopper. AGAIN. twisted memes and juvenile arguments. Anyone who ventures past the meme generator will actually discover that actual reading is better than cartoons. You are merely taking anybody and anyone who is against your socialist vision for a better country than you could ever imagine laboring for, and labeling them any way you choose, so you can take the criminal way to change. Slander is criminal. So is taking from those who labor hard and giving it to the lazy. We all know now. Come on. Ask Gerard Depardieu, who became a Russian Citizen last year because of the tired old politics of socialism. And so on, and so on, and so on.
(UPDATE Jan 10, 2016)Here's an addition to the below blog, Tribal & Ranchlands... .
(Jan 12, 2016 UPDATE)
The following two quotationed sentences is the complete update. The rest of the article deals with past few day's events: "Michael Emery (seen in the video above) in Burns, Oregon verifies today a judge who will remain unnamed is on his way to Burns, Oregon escorted by two U.S Marshals. The purpose of the visit is to reinstate the rule of law according to the U.S constitution." Taken from a late morning update from the "Support Cliven Bundy" page. Here is the article link:
Oregon Victory – Judge and 2 US Marshals in Route to Restore Constitutional Rule of Law
BY · TUESDAY, JANUARY 12TH, 2016 http://thelastgreatstand.com/2016/01/12/oregon-victory-judge-and-2-us-marshals-in-route-to-restore-constitutional-rule-of-law/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork
ANOTHER DISCUSSION or Two on The Fight For The Constitution
The following is something I've been meaning to touch on for quite some time, and now, the opportunity seems ripe. And you're quite welcome, for those whose response is, "O yeah! What a riot these people are!" But seriously. Just read some of the garbage and wonder how is it that some get away with profaneity and threats when others don't. But the following is no profanity. Just simple slander.
As described in Wikipedia, a shill is described as this: A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization. Shills can carry out their operations in the areas of media, journalism, marketing or other business areas.
Shill typically refers to someone who purposely gives onlookers the impression that they are an enthusiastic independent customer of a seller (or marketer of ideas) for whom they are secretly working. The person or group who hires the shill is using crowd psychology to encourage other onlookers or audience members to purchase the goods or services (or accept the ideas being marketed). Shills are often employed by professional marketing campaigns. "Plant" and "stooge" more commonly refer to any person who is secretly in league with another person or organization while pretending to be neutral or actually a part of the organization he is planted in, such as a magician's audience, a political party, or an intelligence organization. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill )
(There are plenty of good conversations to have, if you are truly capable of talking. But patience can be tested. Advice? be nice and civil. And when necessary block the person you are talking with. If it goes that far, just don't argue. But the following two person's I actually didn't need to block. But it starts with a meme, or political cartoon, that someone thought would be educational. Then I took the bait. But what is bait against Jaws? This stuff is mere bait. And you'd be surprised how others respond. Or maybe not. But I digress. My personal opinion on just who these people are is noted at the end of the conversations. Also in the article further below titled, "Ranchhlands, State-Run Media and Public Sentiments". ENJOY!)
Michael Tobin: People should get a college degree in what they learn from these memes huh?
JS: Sadly this political cartoon is how some conservatives react. They cheer on cops who kill children with toy guns, yet defend jerks with real guns who break the law.
Michael Tobin: No that is not reality. That is a twisted picture of how the puppeteers want society to see things. And it just isn't true. What people don't understand is that Constitution Militia actually do have legitimate rights to do what they are doing, where they are doing it and how they are doing it for the reasons they are doing it. It will all come out in the wash. Also, black lives matter has a legitimate claim as well. At least to those of us who still have the ability to reason. But using memes like this, no matter which side of a cause a cause is for, is counterproductive. Truth doesn't need deception.
JS: Sometimes people need to be shown a mirror for change to happen. A cab driver today pleaded guilty to refusing to pick up Al Roker due to the color of his skin and had to pay a $500 fine for it. Sadly racism is still out there, and it won't go away if all we do is ignore it and sweep it under the rug.
Michael Tobin: The cab driver was a dark complected man. Racism was not the motivation for not picking up Al Roker. His reaction was reactionary.
JS: Actually they don't have the right to destroy property or claim access only for them. They say they are taking it back for the people. but by the people they mean only ranchers. They don't want the land for everyone to access, just them and their kind. One of those speaking on here for the group said all like minded people were invited since it is the people's land. I asked if nudist commie liberals would be allowed to use the place also and my question was ignored. Obviously those people throwing a temper tantrum don't want it for ALL people just people they agree with. That isn't about freedom, it is about protecting the status quo to their liking only.
Michael Tobin: Likeminded people means people of any color, race, creed, religion etc... who are tired of Federal abuse and want property back in state control for all of the obvious reasons of abuse and criminal activity on the Fed BLM and Wildlife parts. To throw in nudist or whatever is just a circular tactic to keep a dead argument going
JS: Shouldn't it be available for ALL people not just people who agree with them? After all the land and the building belong to all people. So it is time that some pot smoking nudist hippies go enjoy the benefits of the Refuge. Of course those freedom first minded people with the guns will accept them with open arms right?
It is not a circular argument because it points out the fact that they are making statements they don't really support. They don't want all people to go up there and use the refuge, only people they agree with.
Michael Tobin: OK so now I'm naive? Nice circular going on again. Yes it is circular. You said the person didn't answer you. You obviously are asking anybody other than who is in any kind of authority. Unless you want to lie and say it was the top dog. You could have asked a dog and got no answer for all anyone online knoiws. We all already know you can say anything you want online. But you admit that is a dead argument too because you can't paint Burns protesters, ranchers, militia or any other white foe as racist in this matter. Case closed. Like I said, it's all going to come out and all you people propogandizing this whole just cause are going to be left looking for another fight. You know what your purpose is depending on who you actually are. You are either government propoganda operatives, kids, or commies. It doesn't matter to me because the fact is, you won't succeed in perverting the truth except in your own minds.
Second mainstream news Site Conversation
MP: How in he hell have these criminals been allowed to take it this far? Oh and when can I take over a federal building while I'm armed? The only ones worse than these idiots are the ones that are doing nothing. The government it's self.
Michael Tobin: What people don't understand is that they actually do have legitimate rights to do what they are doing, where they are doing it and how they are doing it for the reasons they are doing it. It will all come out in the wash.
MP: They have the right to protest and assemble. They don't have the right to destroy or commandeer government property for their cause.
Michael Tobin: OK so now I'm naive? Nice circular going on again. Yes it is circular. You said the person didn't answer you. You obviously are asking anybody other than who is in any kind of authority. Unless you want to lie and say it was the top dog. You could have asked a dog and got no answer for all anyone online knoiws. We all already know you can say anything you want online. But you admit that is a dead argument too because you can't paint Burns protesters, ranchers, militia or any other white foe as racist in this matter. Case closed. Like I said, it's all going to come out and all you people propogandizing this whole just cause are going to be left looking for another fight. You know what your purpose is depending on who you actually are. You are either government propoganda operatives, kids, or commies. It doesn't matter to me because the fact is, you won't succeed in perverting the truth except in your own minds.
JS: Yes I can paint at least one of them as racist. Oh wait he didn't mean what he said right? It was the media's fault for playing the unedited version of the video recording. He is not really racist and they didn't understand him when he said Black people should be taught to pick cotton so they don't go to jail.
Michael Tobin: I know ALL about that grasshopper. AGAIN. twisted memes and juvenile arguments. Anyone who ventures past the meme generator will actually discover that actual reading is better than cartoons. You are merely taking anybody and anyone who is against your socialist vision for a better country than you could ever imagine laboring for, and labeling them any way you choose, so you can take the criminal way to change. Slander is criminal. So is taking from those who labor hard and giving it to the lazy. We all know now. Come on. Ask Gerard Depardieu, who became a Russian Citizen last year because of the tired old politics of socialism. And so on, and so on, and so on.
(UPDATE Jan 10, 2016)Here's an addition to the below blog, Tribal & Ranchlands... .
In Defense of The Oppressed by: Michael D. Tobin Jan 10, 2016
Psalm 82:3 "Defend the weak and the fatherless;
Psalm 82:3 "Defend the weak and the fatherless;
uphold the cause of the poor and the OPPRESSED." Right this moment, there are those oppressed who are taking a stand in the state of Oregon for many who our Federal government have oppressed and are still oppressing. Private citizens from all over the western states are there for a just cause, which society as a whole are being deprived of understanding of, and who are willfully ignorant of, and against all friction from state run media, gutless politicians and ignorant and unthankful generations of brainwashed young people of obvious generation belongings, as is evident in so many of their shameful comments seen on social media and news article comments. They can be referred to as sheeple. Now the Church; the Church has no qualms with the first part of the above verse. Who can argue against defending the fatherless and the poor? (Maybe some of the sheeple can argue with it, but I can't.) But I don't see the last part, "the oppressed", being focused on in the Church. Perhaps it's because of 501c3 status? Don't jeopardize the ability of the government to threaten the ability to award those with something in return for gifts, at tax time. We're supposed to give without accepting anything in return anyway. Or maybe support will cause "division" in the church as a result in taking a stand for those who are oppressed by our government? What is the Church afraid of? Well, all the excuses in the book will not stand past sermons applied to other subjects at will, but not applied to others, such as "the oppressed." I see cherry-picking going on. Apply the scriptures to what seems easy or convenient to preach about, but not to what we claim we have supernatural boldness, authority and God's favor over. Yes, I see. Do you? Church! Do you really want the "righteous to rule and the people to rejoice?" Then the proof is in the pudding. Put up or shut up. We can turn this country around for at least another minute, if the Church alone will step forward and fill the space that is blank. Let's do it. Raise your voice, live by faith and rely on God. Again.
Tribal & Ranchlands, State-Run media and
Public Sentiments By: Michael Tobin
It's amazing how many people are condemning the many people of Burns, Oregon and the many who have joined them near and from thousands of miles away, just the way the Federal government and state run news wants them to.
As reported Monday Jan. 4, 2015 by Bend Oregon NewsChannel 21, the closest television news station, an NBC affiliate, to Burns, Oregon, "A member of the Central Oregon Constitutional Guard was back from Burns Monday, attending Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden's town hall meeting in Madras and urging him to visit Harney County and help defuse the protest by militia members who took over federal buildings."I'm concerned -- I'm truly concerned," B.J. Soper of Redmond told Wyden at a town hall meeting that drew a crowd of about 70. Soper told NewsChannel 21 he's well-acquainted with Dwight and Steve Hammond, the ranchers at the center of the dispute, and with the Bundys. He also said he spent weeks in Burns, preparing for Saturday's peaceful protest, unaware what would come next." http://www.ktvz.com/news/burns-protest-leader-from-redmond-opposes-takeover/37265112?platform=hootsuite
This is a viral photo from the April, 2014 Nevada Constitutional Militia protests that saw Bureau of Land Management bulldozing Cliven Bundy's cattle, killing and injuring many of them during their evil, vindictive unconscionable tactics among many years of other tactics against many other land owners, all purposed to run ranchers off of their property to become Federal property.
Many news site commenters keep referring to themselves as against militias standing for property rights in Oregon, Nevada and past demonstrations and militias because they are paying taxes and protesters are breaking the law. And they commonly repeat that the town of Burns, Oregon are mostly against the protesters. But NO, the actual story is they want to quit paying FEDERAL taxes on state and Indian land in other states. It is the federal government granting contractors rights to frack on tribal lands in other states. I want the federal government off your state land so I can stop paying for it.
It has already been proven that nasty word, unconstitutional, and concerning the constant media reports of the town's dissatisfaction with neighboring and local militia presence, here is one man's reply I saw on a supporters Facebook, that refutes media reports:
Tribal leaders and all other militias from all other states all want federal OFF of state and tribal land. Why is the Federal government granting an Australian company mining rights on tribal lan in one state, and why is Federal government granting contractors rights to frack on Tribal land in yet another state? I think state militia and tribes have the same foe. And the US Constitution must be too good to be true, in some people's minds.
So after reading so many mainstream media articles regarding the whole militia events and now, Tribal Indian concerns, I usually know it's all the same, that it's all being ignored by every Walking Eagle who ever occupied the Whitehouse. So now there are those from many other states demanding what the US Constitution says, and trying to get something done. If this succeeds, no doubt there will be a better deal for tribes and all property owners across the country whether it's in some neighborhood, ranch, farm or rural property. Like I said, we all have the same foe. And it's time they listen.
It's a good thing there are news sources who don't report the way the state tells them to. Mainstream media should be seen as "state run media" as our own mainstream media likes to call Chinas, Russias and any other socialist countries news. They are all divided yet call for the same thing. redistribution of wealth, state owned land, and a Gestapo to enforce the government decrees. That all sounds pretty typical anti establishment lingo, but it's actually true. If people realized it, there's no way corporate news in the U.S. can actually report accurately, because heads roll, and many have and will bite the bullet for doing so. So they want to support their families and they want to live. That is why it's good to read books and do your own research. Sorry for the long speech but I think it's starting to sink in. Do you notice ALL of Oregon is in on this this year? And in 2014 the rest of Nevada could care less about their own citizens? The commonality is that honest and caring people from many states came to help. They left their families to help one family. That's pretty encouraging.
For the origins of the Bureau of Land Management what is the Constitutional Militia, and how they have exercised their obligations, select this link:
Bureau Of Land Management (BLM) a British Company? Bunkerville, NV Range War
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